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JRTomlin
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| EmeryH wrote: | | JRTomlin wrote: | Historical. I have to say I've loved the change in genre.
I noticed that a historical novel won the Booker Award this year so I'm saving a place on my mantel. 
(No, not really. I'm not literary, but it's an amusing thought) |
Ah great to hear! I love historical!
Have you ever read Sharon Kay Penman? Here Be Dragons was an amazing novel IMO. Great strong female characters that do a lot of things that really break out of the "medieval" stereotype in a believable way. |
Yes, I've read Penman. She's covered some interesting territory. I enjoyed her Sunne in Splendour a lot.
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JRTomlin
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| izanobu wrote: | Thanks guys.
It's a flash fiction story, will be up at Alienskin magazine in for their Feb/March issue.
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That's great! Congrats!
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steffenwolf
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| izanobu wrote: | Thanks guys.
It's a flash fiction story, will be up at Alienskin magazine in for their Feb/March issue.
I'm pretty stoked |
Congrats! Be sure to post a reminder here when the issue's published. 
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steffenwolf
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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I got my first pro-paying sale!
The story: Turning Back the Clock, a time travel tale about a man trying to prevent his wife's death.
The venue: Bull Spec, a new speculative fiction magazine, the first issue's due out some time this month. My story won't be in ish #1, but may be in #2 or #3.
It's not SFWA listed yet, because it hasn't been around long enough. But if they're added to the SFWA list later my story will retroactively count towards membership.
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Brad R. Torgersen
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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(confetti, confetti, confetti)
Dave, that is super-awesome news. I know you were hoping, about the Bull Spec story. Way to go!
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Alastair
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats on the sale!
There's some flexibility in the SFWA rules if you approach them right. A friend of mine sold a "magical realism" story (reads like early Bradbury, actually) to a Denver scene magazine (303) for a very good word rate. It may well be the only spec fic piece they ever run, but SFWA okay'd the story as a pro sale credit.
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steffenwolf
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Alastair wrote: | Congrats on the sale!
There's some flexibility in the SFWA rules if you approach them right. A friend of mine sold a "magical realism" story (reads like early Bradbury, actually) to a Denver scene magazine (303) for a very good word rate. It may well be the only spec fic piece they ever run, but SFWA okay'd the story as a pro sale credit. |
Even in those cases, I think that the market has to have shown a consistent publication history of 1 year, and this one's brand new. They're a speculative market, so as long as they eventually meet the duration and circulation requirements they'll get listed.
It's no big deal though, if they get SFWA-listed later it'll be retroactive to the beginning. And, until it IS SFWA-listed, it doesn't count against my WotF eligibility. So I"m content.
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Alastair
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Good points, both.
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osomuerte
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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To my knowledge, SFWA status is not directly applicable to WotF eligibility. There was a big discussion about this on one of the boards a while back. I think, technically, WotF lists circulation and/or views of a story as the deciding factor of whether it affects eligibility or not. However a site that gets thousands of views but pays a dollar for your story was never intended to disqualify applicants.
It would be a simple matter to not ask SFWA to approve non-list sales so you could remain eligible, one reason SFWA is not tied to the contest rules. There are, I'm told, other reasons more complex (think legalese).
I've been led to believe SFWA status is a decent guideline for deciding if you're eligible. As far as I'm concerned, anyone that has to split hairs over their eligibility probably don't need WotF to break out. In other words, if you have to ask "Does my sale of a mind-reading tabby story to Cat Fancy count as my third pro SF sale?", you probably shouldn't be entering.
(Hmmm...I haven't sent anything to Cat Fancy yet...) |
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steffenwolf
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| osomuerte wrote: | To my knowledge, SFWA status is not directly applicable to WotF eligibility. There was a big discussion about this on one of the boards a while back. I think, technically, WotF lists circulation and/or views of a story as the deciding factor of whether it affects eligibility or not. However a site that gets thousands of views but pays a dollar for your story was never intended to disqualify applicants.
It would be a simple matter to not ask SFWA to approve non-list sales so you could remain eligible, one reason SFWA is not tied to the contest rules. There are, I'm told, other reasons more complex (think legalese).
I've been led to believe SFWA status is a decent guideline for deciding if you're eligible. As far as I'm concerned, anyone that has to split hairs over their eligibility probably don't need WotF to break out. In other words, if you have to ask "Does my sale of a mind-reading tabby story to Cat Fancy count as my third pro SF sale?", you probably shouldn't be entering.
(Hmmm...I haven't sent anything to Cat Fancy yet...) |
Actually, KD (or Joni, I forget) said specifically to use SFWA list to decide if the market counts. It's not on the official rule page, but that rule page isn't particularly accurate. I'll see if I can dig up that quote.
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steffenwolf
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| Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Tambra, check the qualifying markets to join SFWA on the SFWA.org site to see if you're still eligible for the Contest. We use the same standard as to whether a publication is considered professional that they do. |
This was a quote from KD. It's not listed in the contest rules, but if KD says so I believe her. If you take the contest rules to the letter, it doesn't even require pro payment, so my 3 less-than-pro and 1 pro sale would already have DQ'ed me. But thankfully, I"m still in the running.
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M. Wimmer
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Congrats, David and izanobu. I've been submitting to Alienskin for a couple of years with no bites. That's a good market, especially for flash.
It's cool to see people from the forums making such strides in their writing careers, what with Brad and Alastair selling to Analog. Gives me some hope for myself. |
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Brad R. Torgersen
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| M. Wimmer wrote: | Congrats, David and izanobu. I've been submitting to Alienskin for a couple of years with no bites. That's a good market, especially for flash.
It's cool to see people from the forums making such strides in their writing careers, what with Brad and Alastair selling to Analog. Gives me some hope for myself. |
It can never be said enough. Succeeding in this biz is 10% inspiration and/or talent, and 90% stubborn persistence.
Oh, and it helps to have a spouse who won't ever let you quit on your dreams. That has proven to be very important IMHO.
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izanobu
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yeah, the spouse thing Brad mentions is nice
just do the same thing over and over and hope for different results  |
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Alastair
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| izanobu wrote: |
just do the same thing over and over and hope for different results |
"If at first you don't succeed, try again -- then try something different. No sense being a damn fool about it." *
The "something different" in our case being improving our writing. Or trying a different editor. Or genre.
* Don't remember where I first heard that, so maybe it's time for me to claim it ("as I've always said...")
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